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Fandom Problem #6360:
Lately it seems a lot of writing communities are so focused on discussing and criticizing tropes that there's little discussion on the technical aspects of the actual writing itself.
How can I improve my sentence structure? Does my plot make sense and follow internally consistent logic? How can I tell if a mystery or reveal is too rushed, or too dragged out? (i.e., Do my characters seem stupid for not having already figured it out, or are they making massive leaps in logic to reach a conclusion that only makes sense to me, the writer, because I already know the truth?)
I dunno, but I know Bethany has an opinion that enemies to lovers is overrated.
I understand criticisms that books are commonly written around tropes for marketing purposes these days, but I feel if we're going to criticize things on the basis of "it uses this, this, and this trope", there should be some criticism as well leveled towards people only know how to critique on the basis of tropes, with no regard or understanding for how or if it factors in to the overall structure of the story, or what message the author is trying to get across with its inclusion. People are happy to say, "it's not about the tropes, it's about the execution" but then never want to talk about the execution. Writing isn't just ideas, it's also "how do I most effectively communicate the ideas I want to convey".
Low-key, I feel like this may be a consequence of people who like to talk about writing in an abstract, hypothetical sense without actually doing it. I am including myself in this, as a once-aspiring "writer" currently on a years-long hiatus from writing. Everybody has ideas, but putting them onto a page and molding them into something coherent can be a pretty intimidating task.
You can avoid playing into "problematic tropes" all you want, but it doesn't mean the actual experience of reading the words on the page is going to be engaging. There's a reason why books aren't just a bullet-pointed shopping list of "things that happen".
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Six Years
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by Robosynthesis
Lance was in love with his best friend and he knew that Keith was the one he wanted to spend the rest of his life with.
But there was one problem.
They’ve been together for six years and not once had Keith even so much as mentioned anything about marriage.
Words: 6360, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Voltron: Legendary Defender
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: M/M
Characters: Lance (Voltron), Keith (Voltron), Shiro (Voltron)
Relationships: Keith/Lance (Voltron), Keith & Lance (Voltron)
Additional Tags: Established Relationship, Marriage Proposal, Vacation
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Practice Makes Perfect
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by violethoure666
Grumpy Ben Solo gets asked out by Jessica Pava, the hottest girl in the office. The only problem is that he's a 29 year old virgin who doesn't wanna make an ass of himself with the aforementioned hottest girl in the office. Rey offers to help him get all the awkward and embarrassing stuff out of the way before his big date. Everyone can definitely stay cool and not catch feelings. No big deal.
This is like american pie meets the office meets my own fantasies so....enjoy.
Words: 6360, Chapters: 1/2, Language: English
Fandoms: Star Wars - All Media Types, Star Wars Sequel Trilogy
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M
Characters: Rey (Star Wars), Ben Solo | Kylo Ren, Kylo Ren, Ben Solo, Rose Tico, Finn (Star Wars), Poe Dameron, Jessika Pava
Relationships: Kylo Ren/Rey, Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren
Additional Tags: virgin ben, Experienced rey, Secret Relationship, Pretend Relationship, Definitely No Feelings, soft boi solo, Smut, Lots of Sex, UST, Pining
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via AO3 works tagged 'Star Wars - All Media Types' read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/2kZz3gV violethoure666
by violethoure666
Grumpy Ben Solo gets asked out by Jessica Pava, the hottest girl in the office. The only problem is that he's a 29 year old virgin who doesn't wanna make an ass of himself with the aforementioned hottest girl in the office. Rey offers to help him get all the awkward and embarrassing stuff out of the way before his big date. Everyone can definitely stay cool and not catch feelings. No big deal.
This is like american pie meets the office meets my own fantasies so....enjoy.
Words: 6360, Chapters: 1/2, Language: English
Fandoms: Star Wars - All Media Types, Star Wars Sequel Trilogy
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M
Characters: Rey (Star Wars), Ben Solo | Kylo Ren, Kylo Ren, Ben Solo, Rose Tico, Finn (Star Wars), Poe Dameron, Jessika Pava
Relationships: Kylo Ren/Rey, Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren
Additional Tags: virgin ben, Experienced rey, Secret Relationship, Pretend Relationship, Definitely No Feelings, soft boi solo, Smut, Lots of Sex, UST, Pining
read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/2kZz3gV
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Six Years
read it on the AO3 at Six Years
by Robosynthesis
Lance was in love with his best friend and he knew that Keith was the one he wanted to spend the rest of his life with.
But there was one problem.
They’ve been together for six years and not once had Keith even so much as mentioned anything about marriage.
Words: 6360, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Voltron: Legendary Defender
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: M/M
Characters: Lance (Voltron), Keith (Voltron), Shiro (Voltron)
Relationships: Keith/Lance (Voltron), Keith & Lance (Voltron)
Additional Tags: Established Relationship, Marriage Proposal, Vacation
read it on the AO3 at Six Years
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https://www.tumblr.com/damnfandomproblems/766953102441086976/6360-response-im-assuming-this-is-about-junkan?source=share
I love how this has "gen" after it but it still comes off as confrontational... I hate tone indicators, just say what you mean or spell it out.
Posting as a response to a previous ask.
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6360 response: I'm assuming this is about Junkan, so I'm asking: what exactly is stopping you from creating that kind of content? /gen
Are you just expecting everyone else to like this ship now? Mikan is already flanderized to hell and back by fanservice, I think it's perfectly valid for people to feel turned off from shipping her with her abuser (who drove her to madness, whether you want to view the womb stealing as canon or not).
Like any other problematic pairing, you can't expect everyone to cater to you. Create the things you want to see. Engage with the fanworks that portray the dynamic you want. There's plenty.
But wanting the entire fandom to view an abuser/victim ship as the pinnacle of yuri won't happen. Some people prefer to see a victim of abuse heal.
I'm assuming this was meant to be #6350.
Posting as a response to a previous problem.
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